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piranha
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Post subject: what are the benifits of electronic ignition Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 3:59 am |
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I am considering getting electronic ignition but not sure if its worth it, has anyone made the change and notice an increase in peformance?
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keggie
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 11:28 am |
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yopu should go the electronic way,
just better all round no more points,
better fuel burn due to better spark at high revs, the list can go on,
so buy your self an elec dissy and enjoy
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Lennyburger
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 2:09 pm |
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Electronic ignition is okay but if the car hasn't got a computer for it, like the ones in VK's etc. an easy one to install [if you can find it] is something like Optospark. It replaces the points with a disc and an infrared optic eye. I put one in a Datsun 240k once and never had to replace points again. Can be tricky to adapt for your car though, but easier than changing all the wiring and adding a computer.
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Jorle
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 5:47 pm |
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I think you're talking about something totalyl different.
It was electronic ignition as in the VH's and VK's, whilst there isn't a computer there are not points in the dizzy, it's just a different type and MUCH MUCH better than a points one
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skidmarx
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:11 pm |
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i love my electronic ignition ..so much better that the points system
jorle im confused wat u ment in ur post ...did u mean that vh's and vk's dont have computers?
if so wat would u class the E.S.T unit as?
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ND4SPD
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 11:04 pm |
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I know VH's dont have an ECU, but they are electronic ingnition. VK onwards might have an ecu coz arent they EFI?
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skidmarx
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 11:34 pm |
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vk did come out with a fuel injected 202 in some models and were a briliant motor and yes the vl onwards were all fuel injected
but wat im asking is wat would u class the E.S.T unit as?? i mean ..it takes readings such as engine speed, oil temp, water temp, intake vaccum, engine run time ..and varies other things and computes it to figure how the timing should be to suit the conditions
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keggie
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 10:10 am |
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i would call the E.S.T unit a throw away item,
more often than not they cause problems in the older cars,
when they was new they worked,
but i wouldn't call them a computer in the common use of the word,
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Jorle
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 2:17 pm |
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Exactly Keggie,
They aren't computers. And not all VK's came out with efi, only a few did, most were carb fed
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skidmarx
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 4:50 pm |
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if u notice i did say "some models" i know not all of them were fuel injected as i have owned quite a few
the E.S.T unit is a piece of shit ..ur rite ..but i would still class it as a computer of sort
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Lennyburger
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Post subject: Sorry about that Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 9:24 pm |
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I didn't mean to cause such a fuss with that, just trying to help with a bit 'o alternative info. What classifies something as a computer is a real doozie of a question. In my opinion, we'd be better off without them. If they break you just replace 'em 'cause noone without a degree in electronic engineering can figure out how to fix them. At least with older technology the layman can use some fencing wire and a block of wood to fix it and get moving again. E.S.T does suck, I agree.
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piranha
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Post subject: ignition Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 10:29 pm |
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err ok so I'll steer clear from the e.s.t unit then ay,, I think I'll get one of those setups where you just rip out the points and place some better shit in ther and see how that goes
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toxic_horse
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:54 pm |
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what's e.s.t?
I thought the injected vk's had mechanical injection, although i could be and often am wrong 
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BeauGann
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:02 am |
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Quote: what's e.s.t? I thought the injected vk's had mechanical injection, although i could be and often am wrong Rolling Eyes
EST was an electric timing sensor fitted to carburettored vks. It uses an electronic sensor to detect when to spark, I think it gets triggered by pins on the flywheel or something.
This is a picture of an EST sensor I broke when I changed a gearbox years ago.

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VK6CYL
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:52 am |
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Ok so i have a VK 202 carby with E.S.T so if its a "throw away item" how do i get rid of it and what would getting rid of it do? 
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